Short answer: August Kiles says Emblem runs a multi agent setup using Claude and Gemini most, plus Grok and OpenAI. After rolling back AI coding over bugs in 2025, most Emblem code is again AI generated, and the new Opus excels at financial models.
Watch this answer from Episode 31 (starts at 12:14) · Episode 31 notes and transcript
From Episode 31: How AI Is Replacing 100-Hour Due Diligence (Claude 4.6, Private Equity, and Emblem), starting at 12:14.
Jordan Metzner [12:13]: That's awesome. Tell us just a little bit about of like what kind of models and what you guys are using. I mean, I'm presumably using all the different labs and different things across different laboratories, but maybe just, like, I know we're gonna jump into the news in a little bit, but just maybe the impact of some of the latest stuff from Anthropic and OpenAI and the impact on just, like, maybe even your development, as well as kind of the product itself.
August Kiles [12:35]: Totally. Well yeah, I think your assumption is correct, we do use them all. And you know, we have a, the kind of your classic like multi agent structure, we are good at knowing which model to ask for which task and which question and that sort of thing. And you know, I think we probably use Claude and Gemini the most in our actual products, but we do use all, use, Grok, we use OpenAI, all of it. In terms of with our own workflows, we'll get to this more with the news also, but we've definitely watched the models play an ever increasing role in our software development. I mean, we had a bit of like a jump start last year around this time where we started relying on them maybe a little bit more than we should've because there was some over optimism in terms of how well that, they could write code at the time. Had to kinda roll that back a little bit over the summer. We're having too many bugs in, code that we had pushed, with a little bit too much urgency. So prod, I mean, it's just kind of growing pains for a startup at the time. We were doing a huge refactor of the platform as it existed, and we're hoping to as soon as possible.
August Kiles [13:56]: So we spent a lot of the rest of 2025 kind of not relying on AI as much. But with the recent updates, it's kind of it shifted back towards being a majority of the code that is written for Emblem is AI generated in some capacity. We can touch on that more with the news. And then also the new models have really improved certain things in the platform, specifically financial modeling. So, like the new Opus is really amazing at generating a financial model and outputting it in a spreadsheet and that sort of thing. And they we've really seen a huge bump in performance thanks to that, which is really cool to see.
Jordan Metzner [14:40]: That's awesome. Yeah. That's like a step function improvement, getting the models to work with old file types, in this case, like, Excel models. Because obviously, it's just gonna get a lot better from here. Maybe to the
August Kiles [14:54]: Exactly.
Jordan Metzner [14:55]: Excel gets completely abstracted, like the database has or whatnot. Okay. Super cool. Should we jump into the news, Sam?
