Short answer: Hooman Radfar says founders find Lovable great for ideas but hard to move into production, so they switch to Cursor. Jordan Metzner says Replit goes end to end and expects multiple winners.
Watch this answer from Episode 14 (starts at 11:57) · Episode 14 notes and transcript
From Episode 14: Inside the $1.4 Trillion Solopreneur Market + the Tools We Built (ft. Hooman, Collective CEO), starting at 11:57.
Hooman Radfar [11:56]: Amazing. For everyone watching, Jordan sold me less than what he delivered. So he's like, I'm gonna pick one. And he's like, I'm just gonna do five. Just kidding. Plus. And I'm gonna make a song, and I'm gonna make a game, and I'm gonna perform the hallway. So, yeah, I'll I'll deliver. It's really cool. I mean, it's unbelievable what you can do quickly with these tools. I think people still are even on my team in the world, they're still, like, not fully grasping how fast you can get up to prototype. And I think, I mean, people like you might be able go from prototype to actual production. I think that's gonna be the big last mile because, you look at tools like I don't know how much you guys are using it. Like, Lovable, for example, one of my favorite complaints from all my fellow founders is, yeah, it's great for setting up ideas, but then moving into production is hard. And so there's chains that you can fuse to your point.
Hooman Radfar [12:49]: Like, you move over to Cursor. You move over old stuff. And so the question is is, can people do that or not? Are we just are these gonna be a lot of toy factories for some time?
Jordan Metzner [12:58]: Yeah. Don't know if you've used Replit, but Replit has a great kind of like end to end getting like applications from idea and chat straight up, into the browser that actually works. But, I think we'll see Bolt and Lovable probably build something similar, or is it just simply out of necessity?
Hooman Radfar [13:14]: And Figma is starting to get into, the space too. So I think every everyone has an angle. Right? You wanna start with design first. You wanna start with a concept first. So everyone will have a role to play, and the race is gone.
Jordan Metzner [13:25]: For sure. And, I mean, of course, like, Google is not gonna stop with Firebase, and Amazon's not gonna stop with Amplify, and, so, I mean, it's gonna come from all angles, and everyone's competing for the same kind of thing. I think we're gonna see, multiple winners, obviously, Vercel's with v0. So, we'll see, all different players. But, yeah, I hope this was fun and, like, helpful for the collective community and the collective team on kind of, like, some ideas that could be cool coming in the future. And, I'm not a collective user, so, again, that's kind of my preface here.
