Short answer: Sam Nadler says to use a lighter reasoning model for quick iterations and deeper reasoning when polishing toward production. Jordan Metzner says the trainer shows how much easier it now is to build personal software for yourself.
Watch this answer from Episode 30 (starts at 10:44) · Episode 30 notes and transcript
From Episode 30: Claude Opus 4.6, Codex 5.3, and the Rise of Multi-Agent AI, starting at 10:44.
Sam Nadler [10:44]: Moving on to the next exercise. So, anyway, it's still in beta, but I found using Codex to develop this a longer kind of less engaging approach, but I think, like, balancing between the two or maybe using a slightly less reasoning model when you want quick iterations and then going to the deeper reasoning models when you want, like, to be really begin polishing off and being thoughtful and make it, more production worthy is is, fun trade offs to make.
Jordan Metzner [11:14]: No. Super cool. And are you using it all the time when you work out or what?
Sam Nadler [11:17]: I am not yet. I'm getting it to the point where I think I can begin testing next week. I am just using a ChatGPT thread that it's kinda where I got the idea. I wanted to see what it would be like, and I kinda began updating the thread after pretty much every exercises kinda with my overall goal. And, last week, started building it, and hopefully by next week, I'll be using it.
Jordan Metzner [11:43]: Awesome. Super cool. Yeah. I think this is all part of this, build software for yourself kind of personal software use case, and I don't know what alternative you would have used for tracking or whatnot. Maybe an app, maybe something like a spreadsheet or something, but, maybe now it's easier to build these kinds of things for yourself.
Sam Nadler [11:58]: Well, what I really want, and then we can jump into the news, is like the almost, if you can imagine a trainer after every rep is like, you actually struggled there on that 10 reps. I'm gonna like and the goal for today is volume versus like a heavy push. So like, I actually wanna drop your weight down and make sure you hit those 10 reps, and just having that constant feedback cycle.
