Short answer: Jordan Metzner says Codex was underdeveloped when he tried it months ago, but over Labor Day it built most of his DJ tool and the team is moving to it as the best model available, though that may change.
Watch this answer from Episode 11 (starts at 13:55) · Episode 11 notes and transcript
From Episode 11: Coding the Beat: Strudel, Claude Dashboards & OpenAI’s $1B Play, starting at 13:55.
Sam Nadler [13:54]: A week ago, two weeks ago, I can't remember, we were talking about Claude Code and how powerful it was with, the multiple agents, and I went through an ATS that I built in a couple hours. But you, since Codex, these since the most recent launch of Codex, you're you've told me that Codex is even better, and our engineers are switching to Codex.
Jordan Metzner [14:16]: We keep switching. And I think that's gonna be the game until, there was there's some type of supremacy, and it seems like it's gonna be a winner take most model. I think since starting to code with AI, we've gone through a bunch of different iterations from using ChatGPT to using tools to moving over to cursor, and then, Claude Code and then Codex, you know. I tried Codex a few months ago, and I thought the product was highly underdeveloped. It was a pretty poor experience. And, yeah, over the Labor Day weekend, I saw a lot of people talking about it, so I decided to give it a test run. It helped me build, like, the majority of what you saw inside my DJ tool. It's incredibly well developed. You can definitely see that they're spending a lot of effort in improving the models and improving the Codex experience. Yeah. I think we're gonna continue to see a change in workflows. I think, yeah, the team is moving over because it's the best model we found available on the market today. But that may change, based on something new coming out tomorrow. So it is exciting. It's a exciting space.
Jordan Metzner [15:16]: It is showing that, these things are moving very, very quickly. But, yeah, I think to bet on, what our workflow is gonna be like by the end of the year would be crazy, because I just think it's gonna change a bunch more times. And speaking of the Codex, just, some news came in that Alex AI or Alex Codes is a cursor for Xcode. So basically, build Swift based apps is joining OpenAI to join the Codex team as well. So, they're definitely they, being OpenAI, they're definitely investing in Codex as a tool, trying to beat Anthropic in this space. Team is is adapting to it quite
