Short answer: Sagi Waitzman says AI now builds the digital twin from documents once reviewed manually, more than 100 of them. Cyviation hires managers rather than developers, using Windsurf, Antigravity and Claude Code, plus Gemini for marketing.
Watch this answer from Episode 28 (starts at 6:32) · Episode 28 notes and transcript
From Episode 28: Why You Can't Pen Test an Airplane — AI Cybersecurity for Aviation, starting at 6:32.
Jordan Metzner [6:31]: Okay. Got it. And obviously this is an incredibly fast moving space with historically a lot of bureaucracy and now in the new world, obviously AI and all this new type of technology. So maybe you can just talk a little bit about how AI has maybe allowed you guys to implement some of your technology that maybe wasn't available before AI existed.
Sagi Waitzman [6:51]: Yeah. So first of all, we AI first company, I think, from the development point of view. Like, we don't believe you need to be big to be successful. You can see it in all the startups today. I think a lot of people wants more people because of ego, and they think that if you have more people, it's mean you will more succeed. So what we are doing today, like, when we collect all the information, we enter it into an AI, okay, to make a what we call a digital twin of the plane. And before it before the AI, it was done manually. They go on more than 100 documents manually and then draw the digital twin. And now using AI, we can get more documents. We can get more version, more accurate, and we can do the cross with other system faster. This is just getting the data. Besides of it, of course, all the development is a force. We're using AI tools. Every person we add to the company with the interview is not how he's program, how he's talking to the AI and convince him to program. Like, in our point of view, we don't hire developers, we hire only managers, okay, and every manager has its own AI agent that you need to make sure that he's doing the best job he can do.
Jordan Metzner [8:17]: Wow, that's incredible. Yeah, I mean I was talking to one of my development teams this morning just you know, how, nobody's writing code anymore and just the management of your agents. But, yeah, I just I'm sure you guys are using Claude Code and Cursor and some of the other tools, but how has it changed the developer's job, like leveraging AI? They're all running multiple agents. Is everybody I mean, is the marketing team leveraging agents? Are you using Claude CoWork? Can you talk about, like, some of the features and tools you guys are using lately?
Sagi Waitzman [8:44]: So it depends on the job, okay, because I think every agent has its own. Personally, we use Windsurf for the development for if you need specific fixes, like Windsurf is like Cursor. If we want specific fixes, we're doing this. We use Antigravity and Claude Code for feature from zero, okay, because we understand they this is what they do the best. But if you want to fix something, it's harder to do it with this. We use Claude for research team, Claude Code for research team. It's the best one that we found. Of course, the marketing, the I think like everybody else, since AI, everybody writing LinkedIn posts. We use Gemini. I think for this is the best. I think it's the advantage is also because we use Google Workspace. So it's come with the package. In person, I like it. For the images and the text, I like it.
