Short answer: Discussing Hot Girl Hotline, Jordan Metzner says AI is becoming a copilot for life as memory improves. Rob Williams calls it phenomenal marketing that acts as a sounding board, with a viable business model.
Watch this answer from Episode 54 (starts at 16:18) · Episode 54 notes and transcript
From Episode 54: Nobody Takes Notes Anymore. 5 Million People Let AI Do It Instead., starting at 16:18.
Sam Nadler [16:17]: Cool. All right, guys. I want to transition us to some, silly news. I don't think any of us are necessarily the target consumer. I'm trying to share here real quick. But, we thought this was funny. Hot girl hotline is the dear Abby for the AI era. I think it is. I went to the site. I didn't sign up. Maybe I should have. But it looks like an agent where you can discuss your relationship or your situationship. I thought it was funny. What I do have found in my own personal use case, obviously, I've used AI to navigate some probably less relationship, but maybe bigger personal decisions that I was evaluating, and, I found it helpful. So, curious to what you guys think. Is this dangerous? Is this fun? Is there a segment of, these products that will continue to grow?
Rob Williams [17:21]: I wanna take... Because I can make an argument either way. I wanna take the opposite view that Jordan has based off of this.
Jordan Metzner [17:31]: Yeah. I saw this, like, YouTube clip about this woman who has this relationship with her AI, and, I think as AI gets smarter and smarter, it becomes easier and easier to be a, copilot for your life, and I think actually one of the things that I found it to be incredibly valuable for as its memory increases. Right? So, maybe I can just ask it a simple question, but it's retention of memory from my historicals gives it context to that, I can get questions answered faster and some alternatives. And obviously, at the same time, we've seen all this discussion of Anthropic bringing religious leaders, into their offices and, is is the AI conscious and whatnot. But, yeah, I'm I'm not surprised that people are finding value in, like, speaking to an AI and, like, having an AI companion and, the cost of creating them is, negligible. You used to have to kind of make up that the tooth fairy existed, but now you can maybe just, like, create a tooth fairy and call them directly. So, yeah, I think it's an interesting, fun time.
Rob Williams [18:41]: I thought you were gonna be bearish on it.
Jordan Metzner [18:43]: Take the opposite. Don't worry. We'll cut that clip out. No.
Rob Williams [18:47]: It's... I went through... I do... I find myself doing this. It's almost part of my regular process of digesting news is, like, the flash stages of grief, as I describe it, which is like I see something, I go, What? No. Well, maybe. Actually, yeah. And you just kind of work through all that. And I had a number of thoughts, first of which is obviously I'm not the target market for this, but then the second was how many times have I realized in my own personal relationships, let's say conversation with my wife in the evening, that really I'm just looking for a sounding board and not a solution, or vice versa. She's just looking for a sounding board and not a solution. And what better way to ensure that we rigorously follow an approach than to codify it and say, This is going to be a sounding board and maybe not a solver. Now I realize that there are instances in the screenshots in which it's giving advice, but I think it's phenomenal marketing and branding. Think that, who am I to judge? I sat there under my sink one evening trying to figure out why my disposal was clogged with Claude.
Rob Williams [19:48]: Why not let somebody else? I'm not going to gatekeep access to tools that might be helpful for working through problems, whether they're personal or tactical. So it made me smile. Made me happy. I wish them well. I think it's a great... Here's one angle that I think is underappreciated in AI companies these days, caring about unit economics, and I look at that and I think, This is a real business. This is going to be viable. The cost of goods is going to be under the subscription that they're charging, and bravo to them. I think it's great.
Sam Nadler [20:16]: Cool. With that, Rob, where can people find you?
